Legislature(1997 - 1998)

02/24/1997 01:08 PM House TRA

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 HB 63 - AVIATION FUEL TAX EXEMPTION                                         
                                                                               
 Number 1743                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS said the committee would hear HB 63, "An Act                
 extending the motor fuel tax exemption for fuel sold for use in jet           
 propulsion aircraft to fuel used in those aircraft for flights that           
 continue from a foreign country; and providing for an effective               
 date."  He stated that it was not his intention to move this bill             
 out of committee today.                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 1763                                                                   
                                                                               
 RICHARD CURTIN, General Counsel, Petrostar, Inc., stated that                 
 probably the committee is familiar with the issues that this bill             
 seeks to address.  There are major changes from last year.  The               
 first and most important was that last year, Trent Carbaugh, the              
 Director of Jet Fuel Sales, forecast that there would be a steady             
 and significant movement from air carriers towards buying foreign             
 manufactured fuel and away from buying fuel manufactured in Alaska.           
 Half a year later, he stated they are in a position to see that               
 this has happened and approximately one-half of the fuel that's               
 being sold to these foreign originated continuing flights is                  
 refined outside of the United States.  He stated that the source of           
 the problem, the Foreign Trade Zone (FTZ), established in                     
 Anchorage, made it possible for carriers to buy fuel tax free.                
 This action created a choice that hadn't existed before.  Fuel can            
 be bought that doesn't have a tax on it or fuel can be bought that            
 does have a 3.2 cent tax on it.  He stated that this is the                   
 discrimination that Petrostar is fighting against because as things           
 stand now and as they will stand in the future, fuel made in the              
 United States is subject to the tax, while fuel not made in the               
 United States is not.  He stated that this is discrimination.  It's           
 discrimination that's unfair and unwise, as a matter of policy, for           
 a state to discriminate against its own industry.  The second part            
 of the equation is that, besides being unfair, it is unwise, but              
 also pointless.  Its only impact is that people will go elsewhere             
 and all three of the Alaskan refiners will be seriously injured.              
 He indicated his belief that everybody in Alaska, save for a few,             
 are optimistic about the future of the Anchorage airport developing           
 as an industrial hub.  He stated that the market for foreign                  
 originated fuel is going to grow.  Leaving this tax on the books              
 discriminates against Alaskan industry.  It means that the industry           
 will grow but that we as Alaskan refiners will be shut out from the           
 growth.                                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 1963                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked who they look at as the other                    
 suppliers of jet fuel in the state as major competitors.                      
                                                                               
 Number 1983                                                                   
                                                                               
 TRENT CARBAUGH, Director, Aviation Marketing, Petrostar, Inc.                 
 stated major competitors are Mapco and Tesoro.                                
                                                                               
 Number 1994                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked if it was his opinion that MAPCO and             
 Tesoro would want this market without the forgiveness of the tax.             
                                                                               
 Number 2024                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. CARBAUGH stated that he couldn't speak for other refineries but           
 for Petrostar he stated that the tax was something they couldn't              
 pass through because it is an immense expense from their point of             
 view.                                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 2040                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked if the shipping fees of the foreign              
 refiners are comparable to Petrostar's shipping fees from Fairbanks           
 down.                                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 2063                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. CARBAUGH replied that with all of their costs including                   
 shipping, refining costs, labor costs, capital costs of building              
 their plants, crude oil costs that they are able to beat Petrostar            
 out of the market with this tax in place.  Because that is what's             
 happened.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 2076                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked about the costs of crude oil and the             
 theory that crude costs the same all over the world.                          
                                                                               
 MR. CARBAUGH stated that there has been no answer even in                     
 litigation to that question.                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 2083                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY asked what impact would this have on the               
 landing fees if the state decided to forgive the tax.                         
                                                                               
 Number 2104                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. CARBAUGH explained that it was his understanding that it would            
 have no affect.  Mr. Carbaugh stated that his hope was the same and           
 that Petrostar would be willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with            
 the Alaska Air Carriers Association to fight it.  There shouldn't             
 be any affect.  If there is going to be one it should occur just by           
 the revenue going away which is going to happen in any event.  He             
 stated that it would be total injustice to penalize the air                   
 carriers as we are being penalized because of the existence of the            
 FTZ.                                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 2127                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON asked if we took no action and didn't                   
 consider this at all, would we see a continued growth of the                  
 importation of foreign produced oil, in their capacity, in their              
 production, in jobs and wherever they're coming from.  He stated              
 that since this is such a large part of Petrostar's market, no                
 action, would portend less production but not only no growth in               
 your operations but perhaps a decline, affecting jobs and                     
 associated transport jobs and things of that nature.                          
 Representative Hudson asked is this was a fair assessment.                    
                                                                               
 Number 2158                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. CARBAUGH stated yes, that was true.                                       
                                                                               
 Number 2163                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON further asked if we do agree to the                     
 elimination or the reduction of a tax we may be encouraging                   
 expanded growth, because you may have a greater share of the market           
 and maybe stem some of the foreign oil, you may be able to compete            
 effectively with the foreign produced oil.  He asked if that was a            
 fair assessment.                                                              
                                                                               
 Number 2178                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. CARBAUGH  stated yes, what that would mean is that as the                 
 market grows, we, rather than the foreign refiners, would                     
 participate in that growth.                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 2184                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON then stated that he assumed that it probably            
 would have some bearing on jobs, the economy and money washed into            
 the Alaska economy.                                                           
                                                                               
 Number 2189                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. CARBAUGH agreed.                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 2192                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked how many tankers had Petrostar brought into           
 the FTZ last year and this year.                                              
                                                                               
 Number 2203                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. CARBAUGH  responded that Petrostar has not brought in tankers             
 with foreign fuel.  Petrostar's barge arrives at the port of                  
 Anchorage at least twice every month.  Sometimes, they, as well as            
 Mapco and Tesoro, in order to meet the influx, do bring in product            
 from outside the state, many times from the lower 48.  He stated              
 that at this time, Petrostar does not participate in bringing in              
 foreign fuel into the port of Anchorage.                                      
                                                                               

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